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rules. >> sandra: karine jean-pierre will take the podium soon and we will monitor that for reaction to the white house speaker mike johnson and those at columbia, university here in new york is going to be speaking there that is effected at 3:45 p.m. eastern time, john. >> john: we will monitor the situation in austin as well i don't know if we have the life pictures up on that but it looks like police have cleared out a lot of the protesters, they are there at many different levels. we have the campus police, we have state troopers in riot gear come we have texas dps on bicycle and officers on foot as well. they will not let that get out of control. >> sandra: that's a live shot we expect to see the speaker of the house shortly and i am in for neil so our coverage will continue with martha, think of returning as i'm sandra smith. >> john: i am john roberts "the

>> trays gallagher in gallagher informatica good afternoon everybody, this is the story. we're talking about a massive protest against israel blocking of the university of texas, and the university of southern california, one day after nypd commissioner decided he suspects professional agitators are behind this. >> to me, i think somebody's funding this. also there are professionals and there that are just looking for something to add to the bollard which is the protest be three in moments of story exclusive with nypd chief john schell and nypd deputy commissioner of operations, but first the senior national correspondent, on the breaking news out of texas and here in california. william let's begin in california, you can see the live pictures here they are bringing in chance, sleeping -- tense, sleeping bags, appears from the outside looking in the plan to

stay for a while. >> eight maybe a study in contrast like the university of texas, we're not too sure yet about them, we don't know where the police be, lapd and the police. starting about two hours ago, about a hundred 50 protesters there right now who say they are in solidarity for gaza. they have taken over alumni park right in the middle of campus, they bought a very tense and they may be staying for a while. again we told lapd is on its way. the question is whether they told to do, what are they have permission to do? clear them out, like the university of texas? >> trace: is in california so we should know the police response won't be as robust and it is as some other places like texas. as you move on to texas, often this thing will linger itself. >> i will tell you what, we do know the administration, the dean of students as well as a decision -- division of student mayors told this group, students

for solidarity to palestine, do not do this. if you do there will be arrest and possibly substantial in. so state ps was brought in just about maybe an hour ago, prettily heavily armed officers with right gear to clear out the maybe 300 students who gathered right in front of the ut tower. and we believe we have reporters on the scene there have been two or four arrest so far, and they are clearing them out. they were told the student group was told you are not permitted to hold of the events, you will face discipline, we don't tolerate disruptions because it of a important time in the semester preparing for finals, not a good time for students try to get their work done. >> trace: you should notice that austin is a liberal sitting a red state, you been just think to see how this plays out and how they handle this. william we will get back to you as a news warrants, continuing coverage now to new york city, has become mike johnson will

soon speak from columbia university after more than 200 arrests at columbia and new york universities, mayor eric adams praising the nypd high level of discipline dealing with chairs being thrown at them as they try to keep the peace. watch... >> nypd go to hell! >> everyone: nypd go to hell! [ chanting ] >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ].

[ chanting ] >> everyone: nypd go to hell. >> this is the new york police department. >> trace: the nypd chief of patrol john shot and debbie commissioner standby but first, the correspondent alexis mcadams she's live for us at nyu, alexis good afternoon. >> gil okay good afternoon. we are here at nyu, not as chaotic as it was yesterday, that is what they're trying to prevent at a campus. you can see here to the left this is a live look right now at what is happening with the boards, in front of the business school, it is a tactic at the school hopes will stop protesters from setting up tents and stop chaos like this. watch... [ chanting ] >> as well as a chaos is weak, check out this new video shows

protesters chasing after nypd officers who just made an arrest on monday night when they were called into clear the campus. pleasers is telling me the crowd grew angry and violent after they talked to protesters try to get the protester out of police custody running towards those cops. police went into the building for safety reasons, they also threw a chair in this video and that was not all. protesters throwing the chair and bottles as a try to clear the scene, thrown so hard it smashed in officers right helmet. please leave there were professional agitators in that crowd, the nypd is looking into the possibility an outside group could be funding these protests across the city. live look around columbia university, kind of where it all started in the past seven it -- several days, because now for the mercy's president to resign getting louder and louder. was bigger mike johnson will meet with the jewish students is afternoon. this morning things got a little bit out of hand, 7:30 am our cameras captured these anti- israel chance like this.

>> israel go to hell. >> everyone: israel go to he hell! >> as pro- palestinian protests continue around the country, the nypd remains on high alert. you cannot go into these campuses at a private until you get the call to move in and when they did he try to get things under control quick. >> trace: alexis mcadams live for us at nyu, we will get back to you as there is more. let's bring in the nypd chief of patrol john schell, and nypd debbie commissioner of operations, gentlemen, thank you both were coming in. moment to put on the new york was headline on the screen because it is telling, that line is columbia surrenders an easy on the left pro- terrorist students get slab on wrist as professors joined protests, and all in-person classes are canceled for the semester.

and what -- new york post headlines, does the nypd agree these things have gotten way out of control chief? >> look, we are very neutral in situations, we are here to keep everybody safe. what happens on the campus of columbia is a private institution as he stated, on the outset protests we are ready if they need is to come on campus to take the students off, that has to be done in writing for us. i will leave the politics of this to the school, our departments have performed so well, we handled over 23,000 protests from october 7th. that is about 12 a day. maybe a well-trained, disciplined, you can see how we are performing, we're doing it well. our goal here is to keep people safe, let them practice of first amendment and not put up to the extent that we can see that your team has no data been doing great, those discussions of the columbia protesters here and i want to put these on the screen

because some of the things they have come to, a partial list as they committed to dismantling the and removing a significant number of tense, ensuring that those not affiliated with columbia would leave, the outside agitators comply with all requirements of the new york fire department and prohibit discriminatory or harassing language, over to you now commissioner, is this enough to kind of keep this thing going by to keep it peaceful? >> thank you for the question. started to break the bad news to you but there is more demand that the students on campus are demanding with the school leadership which will not go into. but i will not get involved in the politics of the school. in this department, the police commissioner, the department is ready when that we need to address a situation on campus. we are just in standby mode. >> trace: chief want to go back to you, i feel that my eyes look at the protests there's a

lot of talk about the fact that these jewish students have been told to stay home, the rabbi at columbia said listen stay home because we cannot ensure your safety. is much as you say the nypd has a handle on this, what detail the jewish students there? how do you keep these young people safe sir? >> look i'm not gonna tell them how to feel nor what to do in the interest of the safety. we are there just in case something happens, we are there to assist when called upon. the part about this, the language is a very disturbing. that is the first amendment and we have to put up with that. again, we're adjourning key people physically safe and hopefully feeling safe, and the school, the jewish students, wanting them to go feeling safe. i'll not tell them how to feel, we are there, ready to go,. >> trace: commissioner, you can add. i just wanted to say there's a

big debate over if this is all free speech because some of this free speech is harmful, some could be threatening and dangerous and that does not fall under free speech go ahead sir we went let's talk about free speech! let's talk about, i personally was at nyu. i witnessed the 10-15 prof professors, faculty members, when the officers went to move in to go start affecting arrests because they want to clear the plaza. let's just say that my offices spoke how the professors in the faculties in the offices, if my officer spoke like the, they would get a suspension. >> trace: right. i mean the whole problem here is we started this segment chief with a list, all of the chance, and the chance are, clearly anti- in zero, anti- somatic.

then they become anti- nypd comparing the nypd with the kkk. some of this language has been directed at your people simply trying to keep the peace and you can see where a lot of people say they couldn't see these areas becoming like the seattle zone back in the george floyd riots where they linger and lost all summer long and get bigger and more dangerous. >> well tracey wright, columbia last week the language of students to the cops was reprehensible, disgusting. we will not have any seattle tape encampments on the streets, out can guarantee that. that would end rather quickly. the finite here is the public property that we will deal with in the colleges, private property. that is we have to strike this balance. lettuce repeated there will never be encampments in new york city while we are empowered, never will happen to three commissioner it is very -- it's kind of one of those things where you have to walk a very fine line because we remember

back during the black lives matter protests and arrests made in the losses that were filed against the new york police department and the millions of dollars and nypd had to pay out, and that is why it seems like sometimes police officers are reticent to show things down now like these to five years ago. >> era thousand percent rate. under consideration also, these are students, these are kids. what we saw was george floyd was totally different than what we are seeing it now. we don't wanted to get how it was was george floyd, that is why we are handling with them with kid gloves as you might say, but if they tried to put this rhetoric on the street setting up a encampments that is not going to happen. not as long as we are in the leadership in new york state. >> trace: had there been any directions or advice given to the officers on the streets chief to handle this?

are they getting marching orders as they go out to columbia and i which to nyu? >> going back to columbia, personally instructed them to be professional, to be fun but f fair, do the job well. they have done at all. between nyu, columbia, 200 plus arrests. have done this flawlessly? we are neutral, were not meant we know how to conduct ourselves. i think the countries watching as, our bosses, it's a very volatile situation. >> trace: lastly do you commissioner, it is hard to be neutral when so much hate is being thrown your way. >> that is right. but we are billed for this, nypd officers know this job you will be called hateful languages, the department is built for this? like chief? says, like when the protesters

wear on the plaza, eastern parkway, guess what? our team moved them and we arrested over 200, we made 209 arrests. we will not tolerate lawless behavior in new york city. you will not shutdown our bridges or tunnels, you not shut down our streets. we will arrestee. >> trace: commissioner, chief john chell, thank you gentleman. best of luck to you and your teams out there. just want to listen very quickly to some of these chance, this is at the university of southern california here in los angeles about 9 miles away. >> free, free palestine! p free, free palestine! p [ chanting ]

>> trace: from the columbia do university of southern california, where you're literally taught what 2600 miles apart, they are saying the same phrases. you mentioned to the chief earlier how you believes some outside agitators may be involved in this. they're using the same phrases, the same signs at ufc, columbia, university of texas, so you wonder exactly what the motivation is, who the motivation is and if there is some organized agitators across the country. meanwhile we are waiting the house speaker and mike johnson at columbia sorry, waiting to hear former house speaker nancy pelosi echoing calls for his early paymaster benjamin antony who to step aside. -- that is all straightahead. [ chanting ]

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>> trace: back into the story's continuing coverage of the breaking the news the protests is easy across the country in the left-hand side of your screen, university of texas at austin where there are hundreds protesting on the right-hand side of the screen, university of southern california here in los angeles, go spend hundreds together here, university of texas has been told these protesters have been told, they will not be allowed to stay. we are waiting to find out what they are being told of the university of southern california, though police response in southern california not nearly as robust one would assume as you would expect in texas. meantime here's a scene earlier today is at a be mike watch...

>> israel go to hell! almanac israel go to hell. >> trace: as he awaits from columbia from the house speaker mike johnston, meantime former house speaker nancy pelosi joining the senate's top democrat chuck schumer in attacking his early prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that he should resign, calling him a block to peace, that is a quote. let's bring in the cohost of outnumbered and will former white house press secretary, great to have you on the show. i mean it is unbelievable to me when you have nancy pelosi, she is not called for hamas to surrender, the leader of hamas to stop down, the molars in iran to stop down the edges calling for benjamin netanyahu, in the middle of a war, to step down. >> one of our greatest allies, the greatest ally in the middle east no doubt at war and calls for him to step down. one of the lines she had, she

said is benjamin netanyahu afraid of peace. you know who is afraid of peace? hamas. hamas still holding a megan hostages, did she say their names, i don't think she did. you know who is a stunning abuse? hamas, was holding a 1-year-old, is whether ariel, you know who does not want peace? are iran who unleashed an attack, and president had one on israel's so. and it is very set our so-called speaker does not understand that. also let's give her a few fogs, galway a professor to nyu shared this, exactly right, it is a tragedy anytime a sibling dies, we do not want to see that. however when you look at combatants to civilian ratios, they were higher in iraq, they were higher in world war ii, in germany and japan. israel has asked you, with this lower than those totals. you want to look at facts, those are facts. not sure why israel, the jewish people of israel has a different standard than every other

conflict around the world. >> trace: administration has admitted it is a different standard which is very troubling on its face. look at what is happening at the progressive wing of the democratic party, there has been no calls at all for hamas to surrender to give this thing get up and on. none. meantime elon omar encouraging protesters at the university of minnesota, watchlist... >> i'm incredibly moved by your courage and bravery as a student body. follow your guts and know that what we are doing, the voices that we are raising to save lives in gaza is a just and rages in a morally correct. >> trace: talk about a lack of talents. >> just morally correct? we have heard from these protesters, we have certain -- hard some of the protesters across the accident, a protester literally say you want october 7th not once are 10,000 times,

we had that everything with a kamaka october 7th, babies killed, babies tortured, families separated. they wanted every day according to lease one protester, he is not alone. we heard burnet tel aviv to the ground, we heard we don't want to two state solution, we wanted all. these are not uncommon. amassing every certain my every professors has a belief but when he had like in a language that has to be consequences. i believe in one of my former aides suggests at the white house at every student loan it should be pulled in -- if an individual is called harassing a jewish student. pretty equitable, pretty fair, ilhan omar how about that? >> trace: i watch the video of hamas going in to israel on october 7, it is horrifying. it was horrifying to watch john chell i wonder if that would change some of their minds, the nancy pelosi mines and the ilhan omar. awaited or what he just solidified their position? >> i think it is a fantastic question, i know some of the

footage, same footage you showed wasn't shown on the hill, was shown in the halls of congress john chell confront a try to follow up and deceive any of these so-called squad members attended, i think a goodbye an example of one or two. but if you want to stand there and you want to sit among protesters shouting on behalf of october seventh, you view the footage, you see the babies, you look at the innocence it was taken that day and tell me if you want to go back out there and chant here chance. >> trace: that is exactly what i had to set a thousand times on our show, glace does want to play president biden reiterating his commitments,'s ironclad commitment to israel. >> president biden: my commitment to israel want to make clear again as ironclad, it is critical. want erasure israel has a need to defend itself against iran and terrorists it is supports. >> trace: maybe part of the equipment would go to columbia while you are a new york and go

to nyu and talk to the students and maybe emphasize that there are two sides to the story and maybe you should emphasize that. >> wouldn't that be something? instead of going to these pages, add to your schedule, going here. he knows he can't do it, there has been those political jogging and administration, they want the votes from the people you're looking at that screen, which is why the support of our is always ambiguous and that he was calling for his c-spine in iran attacks and he's back to anna glad but i keep wafers, he condemns it unequivocally and then condemns those who don't understand the fight of the palestinians. he started to talk to both sides, a political dance that is deeply damaging to the fabric of our country and fuels anti-semitism and the crimes easy across the country. >> trace: i have to go but listen, we are going to bring this harvard poll where four years ago, 18-29 years old, 63 percent of for joe biden, today the number is 28 percent. that is why this is happening john chell and it's a very

apparent. upgrade to have you on the show, thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: we are waiting has become a johnston and other republican members of congress on the ground of columbia was he speaking to jewish students about the climate of hate against israel on campus. >> i spent last night speaking was jewish students, they are scared, they are fleeing campus. they are not leaving camp as they are fleeing campus. i have been speaking about of the support for hamas, six-month the president has never revived my e-mail

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>> trace: any moment now had his big mega johnston was due from columbia university as and to israel protests rock college campuses across the country, looking at the university of southern california on the right-hand side of your screen, left-hand side you can clearly see columbia university, this is a coast-to-coast thing that has been happening for the better part of the week. but it is now taking up in places like los angeles where we saw the northern california, they made their way down to southern california. let's bring it back to a national correspond or, kind of focusing on the university california, southern california right now. let's go to the white house, let's listen in, hold on soon columbia is a private institution, we have been very consistent here but not commenting on personal matters, do something for him come to

university board to speak to and the president to make those decisions. won't comment on that, that is all bc the speakers privilege to speak for himself and what he sees. look, i would say more broadly, as that of those moments ago this is a deeply painful, painful moment for many canadian -- many in the community and we understand that. but the president believes that free-speech debate and on his conation on college campuses are important, they are important american values! he will always be very clear, we will always be very clear about that here. but protests must be peaceful, students must be fate -- must be safe. when we see violent rhetoric to be have to call it out. when we see physical intimidation and anti-semitic remarks we have to speak that out. we set from the president statements on passover, you talked about that.

he talked about taking action and making sure we call that out. we will continue to do that forcefully, condemn and testament is for this administration, you will continue to do that, the first ever national strategic counter to anti-semitism because it should be no place in this country when it relates to that type of hate. resort happened in 2017 charlottesville, that was one of the reason this president decided to run in 2020. and he won because of what you saw in charlottesville because of what was happening in the streets of charlottesville, the vial hateful rhetoric to be her saying there. i think columbia will have to speak to their personnel on issues and what we will speak to use more broadly what we expect and what we want to see and how painful it is to hear. >> now on tiktok now the president has signed the bill,

-- >> trace: while we have karine jean-pierre talking what is a protest, very quick, want to address it. will let the president speak to that, speaking but mike johnston going to columbia and addressing some of the jewish students there and she decided not to really say too much about that. we want to bring back in our national correspondent here, put these back up on the screen, the pictures because asuka of the overseas southern california protest going on, the north sea of texas, lumby universitymac these are daytime protests, the kind of gender out later that day on east coast but now there kinda picking up and going at all hours back. >> this is about three hours into the situation right now. what occurred was a confrontation, campus police were told no tense, no banners with his group. this palestinian group. they attempted to detain an individual when they but that individual in the cruiser, the protesters surrounded the car, confrontation, campus police calling lapd which brings in more than a dozen patrol cars,

parked around the corner, there to be brought onto campus onto campus, per se,, have not so far but are they are ready. lapd helicopters overhead to coordinate, they don't want them to occupy the space. right now around 200 protesters, you can see them walking down the, they were in alumnae park basically with a bullhorn, the signs and the free palestine had that kind of thing. now it appears are going in circles just outside of the main administration building. a little different situation in texas. they also, the administration said, he cannot occupy the space, the tense, individuals did, they bought in state ps to break it up. now there's a local reporter they're tweeting saying the situation has gotten worse since they bought in dps in. but this is right in time for finals. administrators don't want them to discover campus. >> trace: william, we will get back to you, live look at

columbia university now. the house speaker mike johnston is set to be there, in fact he's probably there now set to speak in about nine minutes. we will continue the breaking news coverage across the country of the anti- israel protests. that is next. >> we are hamas. >> you are hamas? your what? >> yes, we are all hamas energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪)

>> you have a message for the protesters on campus? >> trace: let's briefly go back to the white house quickly they are talking about the protests. >> i cannot speak to what is going on on the ground, i know what happened is happening today, i don't have any idea how that is being in dealt with on the ground. but look, we have been clear, we

want to see this be peaceful. we understand it is deeply concerning. it is important that communities feel safe and important that students feel safe. that is what we want to cpmac it should not be violent, it should not be hateful rhetoric to here, so that is what we will keep saying, keep calling on, and we will let the universities handle that process on how they are doing that on the ground. >> back to queen for a moment to, president about and discuss -- >> trace: we don't want to see the language get hateful, the water garden campus across country has in fact been hateful. let's check in with our senior correspondent he live attic lumby university as we await speaker johnston addressing students there. steve? >> that is right, speaker johnston is in meeting with jewish students and faculty members expected to come out shortly and give a prostate may. hear it he expressed his opposition calling for the resigning of the president

saying a lot of jewish students drowned if you save on campus. we're looking at the scene behind me can see those tents are still there, we saw a really deadline set by the university come and go over the past 14 hours. there was a midnight deadline set for all those tents to be dismantled, after some negotiation that has been extended 48 hours. you could see an event or show down here or we could see peaceful resolution, but either way, a lot of students and professors eject, jewish students say they do not feel safe. >> trace: steve live it for us, back to you. as the news warns and the speaker comes out to address cackles wearing at our our panel, civil rights attorney, tommy laird, both of our fox news can jupiters and project murphy, former democratic congressman and former undersecretary of the army, speaking overcoming on. over to you for is, you are the closest to me even though you're a couple miles away. the protesters noun the back yard, right?

we talked about columbia, nyu, all of a sudden is the university of texas and at the university of southern california, hundreds of students gathering they are. what are your thoughts and what is happening across the country? >> horrible. anti-semitic. it makes me sick to hear the press secretary talk about we want peace. they have to enforce title vi, the department of justice, what is it? what is the enforcement? these universities private and public we see public funds, you have 200 people arrested and they were released with no comeaux charges. a democrat city, state, they're not doing anything. do you know why? because that is the michigan strategy. those are voters in los angeles, were united live? the mayor, expect nothing. follow the texas approach. this is sickening because i think it is insulting for the the department of justice to sit on his hands and do nothing to protect jewish students.

>> trace: leo makes a good point, i want to put up a couple of polls here, this is calling for number 4, whom did you vote for president in 2020? these are harvard polls, 18 -20 nine -year-olds, joe biden 61 percent of the vote there, donald trump's 28 percent. then hyphen forward to if the election were held today, who would you vote for? joe biden 28 percent, donald trump 25 percent. that is a big time drop, patrick murphy, you could see where there is that this at least appealed to try to get some of these voters back. >> at the end of the day, in america, the u.s. constitution, as a member of congress, i take an oath. it means freedom of assembly. i may not agree with them, i don't, where in the middle of passover, the whole deal with positive or was, they fled

because they were persecuted by egypt, egyptians. what are they do? the part of the market of passover to shut that the angel of death, they were trying to be safe. reviews saying is not helpful. we're seeing here is division. racing unfortunately though is the governor of new york went to columbia privately without the president tried to get a handle on the situation. raising the speaker go there with the press to try to unfortunately i think about our country even more, where we need more unification and division b3 i would disagree, tomi lahren to this point, nobody saying they don't have the right to protest. but the students who go to columbia university also have the right to go to school. and the university of columbia, lumby university those jewish students have the right to be safe, and now we have given these protesters the right to protest and we have taken away the rights of these jewish students because they have to go home and they can no longer go

to class and finish up. some of them their senior year on campus like they want to, tomi lahren? >> again of these mobs, give them an engine they will take a mile and they have been proven successful. they have in some ways shaped biden's foreign policy or at least the way he speaks about foreign policy because joe biden and his team looked at michigan after the primary kaylie lueck of the number of uncommitted it's and they decided they had to get these people. why would they want people that openly and went to support terrorism and hamas is beyond may be! i think the republican party wants those individuals, but it was a this, the problem on college campuses in this democrat talking point of we support free speech, since when? because this mob rule on college campuses has been going on for quite a long time but there was a pro-israel speaker, would be shut down. if there was a conservative speaker on campus they would be shed down. i know because it has happened to me more than once. now they try to cloak this in some kind of first amendment free-speech thing is laughable.

you don't get to pick and choose free-speech, this is beyond free-speech, this is important. >> trace: right-hand side of a skin that is a university of southern california the protest clearly growing there, lapd officers surrounded campus, they are not yet on campus and you campus police, they don't want to an encampment and yes leo, they are or tents and they are sleeping bags and there are things these students are bringing on. i asked earlier in the show when we were talking to the debbie commission, the nypd, kaz daughtry and i said, are you worried that this might become the autonomous zone of 2024 like we signed seattle in the george floyd arise where they just take over parts of areas and failed to relinquish them? sorry leo, let me display what he said leaps is. >> these are students, these are kids? what we saw was george floyd was

totally different than what we're saying it now. we don't want to get with how it did was george floyd, that is why we are handling them with kid gloves, but as side, they want to put this rhetoric on the streets and set of encampments, that is not going to happen, not as long as we are in the leadership position here. >> trace: maybe not in that city leo but a lot of other cities it might be able to hold on some territory for a while. >> i will take bets on that officer, because i'll tell you right now, the law enforcement and democrat cities have been neutered. 130 to tell me, how many of these in the vigils have been arrested, have been charged, convicted and in prison? there is no punishment or deterrence. i respect my colleagues service to this country, but there is no first amendment issue here, this is hate, this is violence, this is intimidation and the jewish community has been basically locked away as a result of this pro- hamas raleigh thought this

entire country. it is shameful. >> trace: although, it is a good points of our universities of southern california has been very peaceful and so far the university of texas very peaceful. your response on this patrick murphy? >> listen as long as it is peaceful they're not disrupting classes and their peaceful it, that is fine. you cannot pick and choose what part of the first amendment you believe in, when they agree or not he have the freedom of expression and freedom of speech! but if they get in the way law enforcement, or other students, if they call for genocide, that is hate speech. that is not protected under the first amendment. let me be very clear, let me be clear one, unless -- finally pastored 12 months of the house, the sport package just paused and signed into law by president biden today, also means that one last thing, i have been to the university, they protested my presence because of the former don't ask don't tell policy that he is to be, and actually wrote

the vote that repealed. my guess what, is a great thing about college campuses he have that freedom of expression, but when they step over the line, when they pick and choose who they are going to support, of the john a conservative voices, that is wrong. listed in article four violence, that is wrong and that is not protected speech. that is why usc is, okay,, columbia, not okay. >> trace: i think it is a fair point leo brings out tomi lahren because the whole concept is different states will handle is different, we saw yesterday in washington state there was a walkout among high school students, high school students walked out and they were holding these anti- israel protests and you think i'm not sure that what happened, it at the oklahoma superintendent who said it would not happen in my state, i can tell you that. >> yes, red states are handling this complete different, your also not seeing this in places like florida we have strong leadership. but leo is right we have a

consequentialist -- consequence less society, wallace's i dpmac isn't just college campuses, it is at every level, people getting away at every level, 2020, the rioting and looting. a president has been said and it will be followed. albot these remain peaceful in certain places but i think it will as clay because what these people want as they want attention and they want spotlight. simile being there i don't think we'll be enough for them, you have to continually up the antiques. and they are not worried because they know there will be no consequences, they will be arrested, put it away quickly in the back of a cop car. >> trace: we're doing some juggling, university of southern california on the right-hand screen, looking at the podium addict columbia university where the speaker of the has made johnston's was to come out and address jewish students there. and we're looking at the clock, that was was to happen 45 minutes past the hour, is now 52 minutes past the hour. went to bring this up to you leo because i was talking about of

the harvard different harvard poll or short time ago but make this question, do you approve or disapprove joe biden's handling of the israel hamas, you know, again 18 -20 nine -year-olds the approve is 18 percent. there you have it. that is the most at issue, that concerns the most, twahtwah present say that is the issue, israel palestine. if we move forward, the answer was do you approve of the handling of, 18 percent, 76 percent disapprove of his handling of this, leo terrell. we should note this pole was taken before all of these protests really broke out big time. those numbers are clearly changing now. >> they are changing our tell you right now, that is why if you believe he is running the country, biden, would you leave so, his handlers are trying to have him play both sides. he's not pro-israel, he is pro- hamas, pro gauze that, from palestine. he has thrown israel under the bus. the only democratic country that

supports us in the middle east, he has basically turn his back on israel, and billions of dollars he had just given, it is meaningless compared to what he is throwing to the jewish community in this country and what he is showing to the prime minister in israel. >> trace: leo, tomi lahren, patrick, got go ahead. >> i mean come on, leo, i love you but to say he is pro- hamas that is crazy. stuart oh come on! >> trace: let him talk! >> let me be clear, and let you speak let me speak. he has been very clear he spent -- stands toe to toe shoulder to shoulder with israel, he has a group in that region, he has defended when iran attacked, he was there within the troops defend them. i get it, i get a -- >> it chuck schumer and nancy pelosi threw him under the bus! chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, joe biden! >> okay,, i can speak loudly. let me make sure --

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terrifying, this writing this far and wide. our education system, part of the bigger conversation to be had. >> trace: the common sense department had a great take on that last night, go on, check it out, leo, patrick, tomi lahren thank you all. looking live again columbia universities to waiting for the speaker of the house made johnston to come out and address that the students, the other side of the story, the other side of the country, university of southern california is now having protests building up there. the university of texas protests building up there, police presence out to both, how serious it was a crackdown on this, that becomes a vague issue. that is "the story" wednesday april 2024, as always "the story" goes on 8:00 pm on the west, 11 we are on the east, for fox news at night, "your world" was neil cavuto starts right now suing rebuttal can house speaker my johnston robbing a press er

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